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    Default 1969 ID20 (or ID19B) - Any Survivors...?

    This is just a curiosity really - my father's car is/was a 1969 build year ID20 - Vert Charmille with the Or interior.

    I've not seen one for a very long time, and I know there were not that many of them brought in, I was just wondering if any have survived in Aus....?

    They had a version of the "one year only" dash - the same as below.

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    I have wrecked safari the same, a mate has a ds21 and a guy in the club has a 69 id20


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    I owned a 67' 19B for 5 years back in the middle 2000's with that exact dash. Seeing it brought back memories. I sold it and it proceeded to change hands a number of times and crossed the country in quick succession until I traced it back with a gentleman in Ballarat who decided after 2-3 years of it sitting in his garage to do a full on restoration. Not sure if its back on the road yet.

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    Is there any explanation as to why the '69 dash* was so short-lived in the ID and DS?

    I don't think I've ever seen a '69 ID 19B in the flesh; you remember things like that, right?

    * definitely in my top three 'sexiest D dashes' list
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    Here you are. A project for you #3813343. The dash is certainly the best aspect of this example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zorker69 View Post
    I owned a 67' 19B for 5 years back in the middle 2000's with that exact dash. Seeing it brought back memories. I sold it and it proceeded to change hands a number of times and crossed the country in quick succession until I traced it back with a gentleman in Ballarat who decided after 2-3 years of it sitting in his garage to do a full on restoration. Not sure if its back on the road yet.
    That's the ex-dogboy one with the rotten pillar so the passenger front door would fall off and crush your toes right? Kind of a pink colour? It seemed to be a healthy runner, but needs substantial work to it's hull, panels and interior.

    I had it at my place for a short time about 5years ago.

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    yep...ex me,ex Richo etc
    and it was pale green...had a Early DS type aluminium boot on it
    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleChevron View Post
    That's the ex-dogboy one with the rotten pillar so the passenger front door would fall off and crush your toes right? Kind of a pink colour? It seemed to be a healthy runner, but needs substantial work to it's hull, panels and interior.

    I had it at my place for a short time about 5years ago.

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    just to remind you of the old girl1969 ID20 (or ID19B) - Any Survivors...?-67ds-001.jpg1969 ID20 (or ID19B) - Any Survivors...?-67ds-002.jpg1969 ID20 (or ID19B) - Any Survivors...?-67ds-006.jpg1969 ID20 (or ID19B) - Any Survivors...?-67ds-007.jpg1969 ID20 (or ID19B) - Any Survivors...?-67ds-008.jpg1969 ID20 (or ID19B) - Any Survivors...?-67ds-015.jpg1969 ID20 (or ID19B) - Any Survivors...?-67ds-016.jpg
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    That's the one ... I hope the new owner has fixed it. It required very substantial hull repairs. The panels were far, far more battered than they look in the piccies. The wiring harnesses needed replacement (I never seen so many of those dodgy clip on plastic wiring joiners in my life as in the dash of that car). It seem to run and drive quite well though.

    Eg: you look at the back wall of the boot .... and can see a lovely line of pop rivet heads where sheets of metal have been pop riveted in to fill rust holes

    It's nothing like the easy repairer it looks in the piccies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donat View Post
    Is there any explanation as to why the '69 dash* was so short-lived in the ID and DS?

    I don't think I've ever seen a '69 ID 19B in the flesh; you remember things like that, right?

    * definitely in my top three 'sexiest D dashes' list
    Hi Donat,

    I have never found anything to explain it.

    69 ID20's and ID19B's were never thick on the ground - so it's not your memory...

    The reason for the move from knobs to square buttons was safety related - my guess is that it was a stop gap to meet incoming safety requirements (move to flat rectangular buttons) while the "new" three dial dash was being made production ready.

    1970 was also a year where the whole model line was rationalized in a whole heap of ways to save $, a move to one dash for all models would have been cheaper. They would have known of the planned change way before 69 so did a few cosmetic changes to the older dash to keep it fresh and get another year out of it.

    DS dashes are all beautiful, but 69 would have to be my favorite year - though I am quite partial to the early 3 dial dash also.

    Cheers,

    Mark...

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    Thanks Dogboy for the pics. Man that did bring back memories and as they say, as the year go by start seeing things through rose coloured glasses. Made the 74' I just sold look 'showroom'. She was dodgy looking all right but drove like a trooper. Did a massive multi circum-navigation of Tassie years ago with it and on the Spirit someone looked at and asked 'Where you taking that' to which I replied all around the state and back. Good luck! was all he said. I met up with him a week later on the Spirit with a surprised look on his face said it all. The one thing that registered with me with the restorer was that he was going to paint it in speckled metallic purple.............So if anyone sees a purple ID driving around you'll know

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    I had a look at what as far as I remember was ID19B at Stafford Heights in Brisbane about 5 years ago. It was parked outside without any cover, it was restorable back then... I might be able find the AF id of the person who had it anybody is interested.

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    My Safari is a 1969 ID21F with the 1969 all black dash (as opposed to the earlier black over beige).
    Mine also has black plastic interior door handles that according to Reynolds was an Elnglish market spec for a couple of months production only.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ds21bvh View Post
    This is just a curiosity really - my father's car is/was a 1969 build year ID20 - Vert Charmille with the Or interior.

    I've not seen one for a very long time, and I know there were not that many of them brought in, I was just wondering if any have survived in Aus....?

    They had a version of the "one year only" dash - the same as below.

    Cheers,

    Mark...


    I inherited an ID20 in the mid 70's. It was an imported left hand drive vehicle and somebody had made a start on it, discovered that it was not quite as simple as flipping the steering rack upside down. re distributing the dash parts and pedals and re-registering. It was novel, when you turned the wheel to the left, the car drove to the right.
    He also had finally, in a fit of frustration with the electrics cut the loom where it came through the bulkhead and then gave up.

    And no, it wasn't me. I took the project on and painted it white, it had a tan Targa interior, same dash as above picture, drove like a trooper and gave me many a pleasant mile eventually. I never quite got to the bottom of turning the ignition light off. It worked in reverse, a bit like the steering really.

    I always wondered what happened to that car.

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