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    God help us Gerry !!!!!
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    That looks like a very good partner for the peculiar D Super 5 that Shannons recently sold!
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    There is only one word!!!! WHY?
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    because they can?????
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    Oh, for goodness sake! Why would anyone do this?

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    You know .... Paint the red parts a nice deep dark red, and that would look quite nice. Sure nowhere near original, but someone has put some serious time and effort into making that car what they want.

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    I have no idea how it happened, but I agree with Shane on this. The color scheme really isn't very shocking. The odd choice of upholstery material and the fake, modern "banjo" steering wheel is mostly where the car loses the plot.
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    I'd think the discount that many potential buyers would apply, would be well over what it would cost to change the colour of a few items. It is well presented, even if it doesn't appeal to everyone.

    You'd only need two buyers who really like it to see a bidding war and remember they have live internet bidding now.

    The steering wheel appears to be a desirable period UK item made by Bluemels, not commonly seen in red I'd have thought. The car is presumably a Legere, but here is that steering wheel fitted to a c1947 Lt15:

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    Quote Originally Posted by David S View Post
    The steering wheel appears to be a desirable period UK item made by Bluemels, not commonly seen in red I'd have thought. The car is presumably a Legere, but here is that steering wheel fitted to a c1947 Lt15:

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    Bluemells also made the standard black two spoke fitted from 1948 up until 1952 on Slough built cars. Part of the British content requirements! That wheel was fitted to a number of British cars, most notably the MG TC and was often retro fitted for a more sporting appearance!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gerrypro View Post
    That wheel was fitted to a number of British cars, most notably the MG TC and was often retro fitted for a more sporting appearance!
    And still available new, made on the original Bluemel tooling. See Kimble Engineering Limited manufactures classic car parts. Specialising in BROOKLANDS BLUEMEL STEERING WHEELS and BROOKLANDS AERO SCREENS
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    By the way, is that original motor in the pic?
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    Quote Originally Posted by caparobertsan View Post
    By the way, is that original motor in the pic?
    appears to be .... Just look at the finish to everything. Regardless of the "type" of finish and orginality, that car has had an absolute fortune spent on it.

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    This car has a close twin owned by the same person or a friend. They were on show at the concourse up at Westerfold park a few years ago. Many new parts ordered from overseas.They are not original but are a lot of fun and seem to be reasonably well done and look pretty good . I note that while it is an11BL it has early English bumpers amongst other irregularities (English lucas parkers for instance).
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    Reminds me of a mate who had a green escort back in the day. He went to wreckers looking for a fender after a minor mishap. After purchase and installation, he was proudly showing off his good fortune at finding the perfect colour match from wreckers. His friends pointed out the new fender was brown, not green like the rest of the car and thats how he discovered he was colour blind.


    I agree with Double Chevron darker shade and it could work, here's and example, with the colours the other way around,

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    Did Slough build up any 11BLs to usual Slough wood/leather/trafficators etc. spec? I know of a big boot car that is marked as an 11BL, but appears to be otherwise like any other Slough Light 15 of the same period. Were they taking some RHD cars from Paris and finishing them at some stage?

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    As far as I am aware all of the body shells were sent over from France and were then converted to Slough specs ( enlargement of the battery box cutting of the steel dash to accept British Jaeger and Smiths instruments and wood dash as well as RHD conversion) before being assembled and trimmed in the British style!
    Slough even produced some in standard Paris trim as an economy model. I have never seen one of these!
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    My 51 BL has some english embellishments - but I'm not certain how that came to be, or whether original. In 51 the experts tell me that there was an interruption in supply from Slough, so Aussie dealers imported the 11BL and dressed them up with the preferred English livery. Where the opportunity arises I'm tending to put on French bits - eg the smaller and painted french spec lamps.

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    The oddball car I mentioned (i.e. not the red/black auction car) would be about 1951 going by the numbers, but it has no Slough chassis plate and wears only the French tags. It looks like a regular Slough car and even has trafficators. So it's more than some swapped items late in life, which would have been easy when the cars were worthless and being broken up. If it was fitted up that way by the importer/dealer, then they certainly performed a very comprehensive refit to make it look like a Slough car. I can't recall what it has under the bonnet though. Maybe, it's pure French?
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    Has BL interior - dash etc, and BL grill. Would have to be French....? I think it looks great - I'd drive it home - maybe a bit 'noddyish' - but I like that sense of humour. Looking at Google Images, there were some pretty bright original colour combos and, like others, I appreciate the endeavour. Little beats the pared down straight BL though, of course, for transporting you to the time and place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David S View Post
    I'd think the discount that many potential buyers would apply, would be well over what it would cost to change the colour of a few items. It is well presented, even if it doesn't appeal to everyone.

    You'd only need two buyers who really like it to see a bidding war and remember they have live internet bidding now.

    The steering wheel appears to be a desirable period UK item made by Bluemels, not commonly seen in red I'd have thought. The car is presumably a Legere, but here is that steering wheel fitted to a c1947 Lt15:

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    There is very little on the car that is from Britain. The front and rear straight bumpers and the Lucas distributor are the only parts that I can see apart from the very aftermarket steering wheel. Sorry I do not think that there are trafficators in the B pillars.
    I do like the chevron touch for the steering wheels centre cap! Car would have looked fantastic if the colours on the body work had been reversed and the interior done in a more muted blend of grey or brown tones. The interior red even on the headlining is just too in your face!
    To restore its value as a collectors piece the entire car would need to be refinished tastefully and preferably with authentic materials.
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    Not being one for concourse stuff or exactness of whatever, I reckon this car looks fantastic. Reminds me of a Redcap paint job [Military Police] the only color I would change is the roof trim and the spare wheel cover. Beautiful thing.
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