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    Seen a 2006 C2 VTR on carsales and I really liked it just wanted to know if they have the newest system for the sensodrive would they not get the problems like the snowflake symbol and stuff? And please dont recommend me to get the VTS because Im a P-plater and I only took my driving test in automatic so Im not allowed to drive a manual. Also hows the room in the back seats and boot?

    Informative reviews please from people who've had one before thx

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    Send a message to Mort Subite. He had, maybe still has, a beaut VTR in blue and will probably give you an honest appraisal of his experiences with it.
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    Send a message to Mort Subite. He had, maybe still has, a beaut VTR in blue and will probably give you an honest appraisal of his experiences with it.
    Hi, I have a red C2vtr and it is both auto and manual via flappy paddles so you would have no trouble with driving it. The 1.6 motor goes very well,the back seats fold down for big loads ,but it is a little cramped for a big person in the back. If you want any more advice go to your nearest Cit dealer. Regards eager.
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    thanks. are the service and parts expensive?

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    The 1.6 is common to a number of small-medium CitroŽn and Peugeot models. If looked after, it shouldn't present any nasty surprises. Sensodrive clutches are best replaced by someone familiar with the system, they'll spend less time getting it right for you.

    ABS/ESP faults sometimes occur; this is not a fault with the French makes but a design flaw in the (German) control unit. It's not the cheapest item to fix - either has to be replaced or sent away for a failproof modification.

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    sorry for asking so much questions but this is going to be my first car and since im a girl i dont know much about them. would they have to get the parts from overseas or do they usually have them here?

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    Welcome to the forum Chibi,
    I have owned a 2004 C2 VTR for around four years and done around 40 000km in it. It is mainly driven around town and on local roads around Bathurst. It has also been driven from Ballina to Bathurst and from Bathurst to Sydney a few times, performing very well.
    It is a great little car and both my boys have learnt to drive in it. Space is great for two people ( I am 6ft 3in and not a 'little' man). Not sure which car you are looking at on Carsales but both the 2006 new VTRs are the updated versions of the sensodrive box and these do not seem to have as many problems as those reported in the earlier versions.
    The only problems I have had with the sensodrive were:
    1. trouble caused by a broken abs wire when I first bought the car (had been eaten by a rat - search for posts on this forum). and
    2. 'snowflake' fixed by putting in a new battery (even though the existing battery was checked as fine by NRMA).

    I would suggest that you replace the battery with a high spec one (e.g. Supercharge Gold) every three years, even if it seems to be going strong.
    Check if the timing belt has been replaced and if not, get it done as soon as possible.
    Not sure where in NSW you live but if you live in Sydney, get a gearbox service done by a Citroen dealer. Should cost around $153 at McCarroll's Roseville.
    Looked after and serviced properly the C2 is a great little car.

    I have been keeping a record of the running costs on my cars for the last 25 weeks. The C2 averages 194Km a week, I spend $28.29 a week on fuel and overall with rego, insurance, servicing and new tyres it is costing me $0.61 per km. If you want a copy of the spreadsheet, send me a personal message and I will reply with a link.
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    Most "common" parts are on the shelf at both dealers and non-official importers. It's not true that they are really expensive, Toyota charge a fortune for genuine parts but there is more choice of unofficial cheap bits (just for comparison).

    I wouldn't recommend taking a CitroŽn or Peugeot to one of the big "name brand" (eg, the tyre and auto service type places) workshops unless you know someone there has good experience fixing them. The main reason is they aren't going to be so tuned into parts suppliers as a specialist, so you might pay too much for bits, the second reason is they might not know to give attention to some foible of the model, which is easily sorted by a mechanic in the know.

    Unless you are caning it all over the country, it's only going to need two or three services a year. The biggest service on a Sensodrive is the clutch, it's more expensive than a regular manual to do. You should get more than 150000km out of a clutch though. Next biggest service is the timing belt change, which is every four years. Brakes are simple, no need for massive costs there.

    Remember that a 2006 car is probably due for some mechanical work the seller has put off; people are like that!

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    Despite the false reputation Cits have for complexity, the truth is modern ones aren't, though they differ in various ways from the usual Japanese offerings.

    As for parts, dealers are expensive, and I know that my family couldn't have afforded them. Fortunately they didn't have to, as there are several independent importers of parts that you'll see mentioned over and over here. This makes Cits and pugs quite affordable to run. Several Aussie Froggers regularly get small stuff from Britain and Europe to save $$$. If you don't do service yourself (you should, it isn't hard) each major city has a mechanic or two who really knows these things with much more affordable hourly rates.

    Like most modern cars, there are fully computerised systems to do everything electrical, and these can be difficult to sort out if trouble occurs. Even so, a lot of this forum's members have the software for this too. You'll see regularly panning of Citroen electrical systems by newspaper journalists who don't seem to realise that the electrics are usually German and not much different from other makes that the dills are fond of.

    Sensodrive, if you get one, is an expensive mechanism mounted on a standard gearbox. Make sure it is in good nick.

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    im pretty sure where going to get NRMA to give an inspection on the car if we get it not sure yet, i sent an inquiry to the person asking some information about the car but they haven't replyed yet

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    I still miss my '06 C2 VTS. However, the main reason I sold it was because I could not come to terms with the Sensodrive; it is a slow system when, for example you're doing a three-point turn. I had to get the Sensodrive actuator replaced (luckily under warranty; it was a $1100 job, or so I was told), but it still wasn't ideal in back-and-fill city situations. I suggest you drive one to see if you like it. I loved the ride (for a small car) the sliding rear seats, the roominess up front, went noticably better after I fitted a Green Cotton air filter, but was always reasonably quick, could park it almost anywhere. After I sold it, I drove a VTS (the manual version, lowered suspension I think too) but it rattled like crazy and just wasn't as good as my VTR.

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    The owner never replied to my enquiry so I was going to phone then yesterday but when I went on carsales it said it wasn't available anymore. Now I'm checking out the other c2s but they don't appeal to me as much as that one did...

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    The dearest NSW car offered last time you posted - the red one - looked quite an honest car. Still, the price was up there; almost Mazda 2 money.

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    Take your time Chibi and wait for the right car to come along, Learn all you can in the mean time about the model. It's also easy to buy interstate if your looking at what you think is the right car (airfares are cheap). Join your local Citroen club if you buy and enjoy the magic.

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