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    Default New 1985 CX25 TRI owner

    G'day all,

    Forgive me for being a Yank in an Oz forum but I have enjoyed (and benefited from) many of your posts the last few days so I thought I'd join up.

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    Bought myself an unusual birthday present the other day, a 53k original kms 1985 CX25 TRI, 5 seater, original cosmetics, 5-speed with Aircon and climate control. The car was bought new in Switzerland by an American Porsche specialist and shipped over here though not federalized as would have been required in those days. Most of you will know Citroen closed shop here in 1974 due to the bumper and side impact regulations they didn't want to do so any CX is rare here and though I know of a few Prestige Turbo IIs and the like, I don't know of another Safari. A mutual friend of ours bought the car from Stoddard in 2013 and I have been working on him ever since to sell it to me.

    Though the car came with original manuals (which are in my estimation pretty useless, even though they are in English, particularly the wiring schematics) I have struggled but succeeded in making some repairs, including getting the climate system and blower going, radiator fans, charged up the Aircon, tightened up the shifter bushings and even made myself a battery hold-down. Many of the clues I used were from this forum.

    At present we await six new spheres as the newest one on the car appears to be from 1999, the rear bounces uncontrollably and the front is hard as a rock (spheres may even be the originals), but I'm quite pleased at how far I've come.

    I could use a pair of rear compartment ceiling lights (the one with the little wheel-switch) as one is missing and the other one is broken. I'm sure I'll have other requests for odd items.

    Best regards from the USA,
    Chip
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    In addition to the rear dome lamps, I could also use a good digital clock for the same car, mine has missing segments so one must extrapolate the time.

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    Congratulations with your purchase! It looks bloody great cosmetically!
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    It is, there's no rust, there was also a rust-proofing treatment applied when new (like Dinitrol) which has gotten everywhere. Eventually, I need to get my door ding guy after it, make some touch-up paint to address chips and have the car clayed and buffed, it will shine up nicely. Inside, the driver's seat could use a bit of foam but the upholstery is fine if slightly loose along the seat bottom. Not addressing any of these issues until the hydraulics are back to new and I've had a chance to do the rest of the service. I'd like to use this car somewhat regularly (even with the "priceless" TRX tyres) as they can be very pleasant.

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    Welcome to a very exclusive club. If you think left hand drive wagons are rare try looking for a RHD 'Familiale' - in the UK most have rusted away. Here in Australia they were only ever private imports.

    Anyway! Enjoy what is a fantastic car.
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    I had an early 1978 CX and a later 1985 CX. They were both sedans. I think the 1985 was arguably the best CX in that it kept the original shape with the metal bumpers, but had the better engine. When you get your spheres replaced, you will appreciate the ride qualities. The TRX tyres were a good (but expensive) compromise between handling and comfort). I still think those mag wheels are amongst the best looking. Certainly the best on a CX.

    Conratulations. you have scored a gem. You seem to have done well with the electrics, probably better than many at the factory were able to.

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    Part of the fun is finding the parts you require to turn it into a masterpiece. When you find those parts from some guy in the artic circle -- you go YEAH!!!

    Enjoy and great to see your part of the board.
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    There are two good suppliers for CX bits;

    CXbasis in Germany
    Westernhemispheres in your own country.

    there are others, but the above have assisted me mostly. The success of these businesses will I hope ensure continued availability of CX parts. But it's nothing like the availability of 2cv parts unfortunately.

    ps. My CX spheres where fine but I replaced them anyway with new for good measure and I'm so glad I did, I was pleasantly surprised with the improvement.


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    Thanks all. I have enquired to CX Basis already, will try WH though I would suspect there would be little in the way of NOS CX Safari parts here given we never had the cars. I am very sympathetic to fair-minded people in the parts business as I ran a niche parts business for ancient SAABs for 15 years.

    Frankly, in the case of the clock and the rear lamps, I'd be perfectly OK with something used from a hobbyist, let me know if you're parting a Safari.

    Two questions I've thought of this morning:
    - my oil pressure gauge needle goes up before I start the car, then completely falls away once the car is started. Where is the sending unit for this or is the problem elsewhere? The one for the light works fine as it goes off when engine is running.
    - should the blower motor run on low all the time or is the switch bad in the center console?

    Thanks again

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    That is a seriously gorgeous car. Congratulations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chiplamb View Post
    Thanks all. I have enquired to CX Basis already, will try WH though I would suspect there would be little in the way of NOS CX Safari parts here given we never had the cars. I am very sympathetic to fair-minded people in the parts business as I ran a niche parts business for ancient SAABs for 15 years.

    Frankly, in the case of the clock and the rear lamps, I'd be perfectly OK with something used from a hobbyist, let me know if you're parting a Safari.

    Two questions I've thought of this morning:
    - my oil pressure gauge needle goes up before I start the car, then completely falls away once the car is started. Where is the sending unit for this or is the problem elsewhere? The one for the light works fine as it goes off when engine is running.
    - should the blower motor run on low all the time or is the switch bad in the center console?

    Thanks again
    The oil pressure gauge is actually an oil level gauge and only shows oil level briefly before starting,enjoy.

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    Thanks for clearing that up! Cool. It works fine then.

    UK vendor punted my order for rear lift struts and spheres this morning, so I placed order for suspension spheres with CX Basis. He however did not have the correct rear lift struts (he is selling one with 600nm force and says to just replace one, I don't care for that idea as that could eventually tweak the hatch) so I found those with another German parts vendor in Berlin I have used before for weird stuff.

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    Chip- Do yourself a favor if you're able and attend the East Coast Rendezvous, Father's Day weekend if you're able. I've never been, but supposedly massive fun for us mentally disturbed ones.

    I envy your wagon. I had a Prestige for a brief time, but I wanted a wagon. Yours looks like a fine example. There are a few other CX wagons here- maybe a couple dozen total? CXA and CINA did import them, and I do know of a couple of grays here in SoCal. Pics! We need more pics!

    Don't worry about being a Yank on an Oz forum. I antagonize these upside-down ruffians on a regular basis and they still tolerate me.

    Thanks all. I have enquired to CX Basis already, will try WH though I would suspect there would be little in the way of NOS CX Safari parts here given we never had the cars. I am very sympathetic to fair-minded people in the parts business as I ran a niche parts business for ancient SAABs for 15 years.

    Frankly, in the case of the clock and the rear lamps, I'd be perfectly OK with something used from a hobbyist, let me know if you're parting a Safari.

    Two questions I've thought of this morning:
    - my oil pressure gauge needle goes up before I start the car, then completely falls away once the car is started. Where is the sending unit for this or is the problem elsewhere? The one for the light works fine as it goes off when engine is running.
    - should the blower motor run on low all the time or is the switch bad in the center console?

    Thanks again


    Niche business for ancient SAABs? I. Love. You. I adore the 95.

    A bit more seriously, is the clock a digital or an analog? I forget what dash went in the '85. You said missing segments, so I'm guessing digital. Try this, I have had spotty success with this method: Open the clock up. You'll find the power board, the segmented digits on another board, and the screen through which you see the digits. The power board and the digit board are dependent on being pressed together to form a contact. The screen IIRC has a couple of foam buffers that act as spacers. When the foam dries, the spacer action is no longer good, and the two boards begin to lose contact. Replace that foam, then carefully snap the clock back together. Try not to touch the individual segments while you're doing all this.

    I think you can also take the clock parts from a 505, as they used the same general design, if not the bezel.

    Concerning your blower, many HVAC systems are set so the blower is continuously on low, and needs you to actually turn the system off. You can pull the fan switch and check for burning and melting.
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    Hi Chip,

    Congratulations on your purchase. I have owned 2 CX wagons, very early ones (1975 and 76) and these were fitted with huge 700cc rear spheres rather than the more normal 400-500cc ones. They were made in the same format as spheres from DS models in that they will unscrew in the middle so the diaphram can be replaced. So when you get your new spheres, don't through away the rears as you can probably get them rebuilt. Then you will only need to have them regassed every 2-3 years to keep the nitrogen pressure up to specs.

    Cheers,

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    Ken, unfortunately the original DS, Rolls Royce et.c. style spheres in the rear were indeed replaced once before and the originals are gone. Else I might have decided to repair them properly.

    Hotrodelectric, thanks for the digital clock tip, maybe I'll play with that today. Good idea. The 505 clock is quite similar to the CXII clock but the CXI clock is larger, almost square, opposite the ignition lock.

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    here's a link to a series 2 cx digital display fix, quite detailed.
    How to fix the LCD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sturla View Post
    here's a link to a series 2 cx digital display fix, quite detailed.
    How to fix the LCD

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    Sturla, that is a great find. Thank you. One hell of a lot better than what I remember.
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    Most of them are smashed, so sturlas page ( I think that's the original page he wrote probably 10years ago!) doesn't always work. Generally the screws have all been tightened up some point smashing off all the little plastic "nuts".

    I've found cleaning and re-assembling *might* work for a few months. It won't if you have any broken mounts. I think Australian weather greatly (massively) exacerbates the problem. The plastic expands and contract a lot in the heat, so it may work until the first time you park the car in the sun.

    I've tried plastexing on new nuts, gluing, ramming holes through the lot and using small nuts/bolts to hold the display clamped together. Weirdly the only thing that worked for any length of time ( ie: a few years ) was packing the cavity behind the display in the dash, then forcing the whole display unit in, so when you installed the two mounting screws it even clamped the whole unit together into the dash.

    I've now broken the outside temperature LCD on mine, I've pretty much given up on it. The design of the whole display unit really is shit ... there's no other way to describe it. Even if I purchase a brand new one at huge cost, I'm sure just using the car for one summer would have it mostly non-working again.

    The only fix I can think of would be to build a new display unit using a modern non-heat sensitive display. You would need to reverse engineer all the sensor inputs though.... A huge task.



    This is the display in mine. The only one working at the moment is the coolant temperature ... which is the only one I really require. The others are :

    1: oil temperature
    2: coolant temperature
    3: trip computer (says "Opt" .. Option) until you program it
    4: outside temperature

    It's a shame they never work, they make the dash look so dodgy when there broken and half working.

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