C5 2.2 hdi Won't Start!
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    Default C5 2.2 hdi Won't Start!

    Hi,

    I was out at a friend's today, jumped in the car to leave, and when I turned the key - nothing...

    The lights came on but the engine wouldn't turn at all. Spy glass on the battery looked good, but still have it a go jump starting. Still no joy.

    Waited for the RACV. Mechanic tapped the starter with no success, then shorted it while I tried the key and it came to life! So apparently the starter isn't getting any power. Thankfully I could drive it straight home as I want far away and didn't need to stop.

    Once home tried to restart to no avail.


    Anyone know where the best place to start looking? Have you had this happen yourselves?

    Thanks in advance, I'm meant to go on holiday in two days, so I'm getting a bit desperate!

    p.s. last week the battery went flat for no apparent reason, so I recharged it and drive over to the local battery specialist, expecting to need a replacement, but after running tests on 2 machines the verdict was that it was fine....



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    If it's a 2.2HDi 4 speed ... check the connection plugs on the engine harness and make sure they do not have oil (fuel) in them and particularly check for this at the engine fuse/relay box. If it's wet, suspect the fuse/relay before simply changing the starter. Otherwise, the starter may be the problem. Are the terminals clean and not burnt? Sometimes, you get a dry joint, even where it looks clean, so slacken the connections and retighten if in doubt. You could check the brushes and sectors they run on. I'm fairly sure it's a Valeo D6RA starter, so you just remove the end cap and they lift off with it. The Solenoid will be sealed, so if it's burnt internally, you can't clean it up as you could with many older starters.

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    Pray it isn't ... what we had ... the fuse box had melted.
    Have a look.

    Never discovered why, long and painful journey.
    Commenced with starting problems, then total failure.

    No-one ever got to the bottom of the cause, either.

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    They're rubbish quality, that's why. Barely sufficient relays soldered to a circuit board slathered in rubberised epoxy and wrapped in a poorly-vented plastic casing. Fixable if there is no other option...

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    Sorry for taking this long to thank you all for your replies, but the pressure is off slightly as we can borrow the inlaws Laguna for our trip away. Four of us might be a bit tight in the S16 for a longish trip!


    David - when you say the connectors, do you mean near the engine relay box? As the starter worked ok myself and the RACV think it's fine, he thought it might be an inhibitor switch, I'm thinking relay. Fuses are all good.

    Hooked up Lexia, found a few errors "Starter motor relay coherence" and " starter motor relay short circuit"

    AS an aside somehow I got to a section where it gives troubleshooting steps to the found errors.

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    I can't seem to find that feature again - C5/BSM/DIAG at the top, anyone help me there please?

    As for the relay, I've read you have to replace the whole unit, is that true? Or is it possible just to replace the relay on it's own?

    What other test should I do to make sure it is the problem?

    I had disconnected the battery a week ago, is it related? It ran fine since then, I presume the the battery issue only manifests straight away after reconnecting?

    Thanks again,
    Leith
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    95 Peugeot 306 S16
    95 Silver Xantia VSX - now deceased

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