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    Default All things considered .. the best Citroen is ??

    Not that I'm in any position to do so, but "if" one was looking to buy an inexpensive Citroen, and take into account the whole shooting match: reliability, enjoyment, fuel consumption, cost to run, cost to fix, quirkiness... anything... what do you propose? I truly have no idea, (coz they all do different things) so I'm interested in your thoughts. Even with the current new models considered...

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    And if it turns out not to be a Citroen well, that's ok too.

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    No, you cannot describe the rules and then abandon those same rules in the next breath.

    Which is it going to be?

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    Clearly, Anarchy .. (although I'm not sure if they are French or even Front wheel drive).

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    The answer is GS.

    All other responses are incorrect.

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    So they are.
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    My response might be invalid because we haven't seen anything factory fresh since '73, but I'm also in the GS camp. To this day I consider that a brilliant mix of D n' A.
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    Whichever one decides it'll start and work when I need to go somewhere is generally my favorite
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    I agree with them.

    GS, no contest, if you want an older classic.

    Pluriel if you want a modern one.

    But I think you are playing with us. Think harder and tell us what you actually want.

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    I have never owned a cit but almost bought a 16V BX recently. It was very tempting and a near perfect car for $2000.
    It has genuine, certified, Citroen oddball design, really has some legs, and an enormous l Ioad space and seriously spacious seating for 4.

    I felt it had classic cit genes but with a 'modern' feel.

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    Reality, flip a coin, anything designed before poogoe took over .... CX, GS, DS/ID,SM, Traction, Hvan, 2CV.......... Each entirely unique and incredible in it's own right .... Make mine a CX2500 GTi Turbo Prestige, GS1015 C-matic, 50's DS19, SM injected manual, Hvan (any sort), Traction Big 6 and a big bore 602cc 2cv.

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    '78 GS1220 pallas
    '92 Range Rover Classic ... 5spd manual.

    Yay ... No Slugomatics


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    XM; ES9 powered, manual gearshift. In silver, of course. Good inside space, modern metal treatments, less of the disappearing plastics. Shame it lost the characteristic single spoke wheel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleChevron View Post
    Reality, flip a coin, anything designed before poogoe took over .... CX, GS, DS/ID,SM, Traction, Hvan, 2CV.......... Each entirely unique and incredible in it's own right .... Make mine a CX2500 GTi Turbo Prestige, GS1015 C-matic, 50's DS19, SM injected manual, Hvan (any sort), Traction Big 6 and a big bore 602cc 2cv.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garyk View Post
    reliability, enjoyment, fuel consumption, cost to run, cost to fix, quirkiness...

    And if it turns out not to be a Citroen well, that's ok too.
    Oh that bloody Q word!

    Anyway, by your stated criteria; Its a Xantia from my humble experience. BUT by any other criteria the CX25 turbo, because it puts a smile on my face more so than any other, when I drive it.


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    Now for my ultimate Citroen wish------------------Drum ROLL Please.

    A 1938 Light 15 Roadster like the one in "Automobile Quarterly" ( second Quarter 1976 )
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    We have to be fair here.

    I've had several D's from an early 1D19 up to a couple of later model D Pallas's, 2 Gs's, 1 CX Pallas and my present C5 diesel and SWMBO has a Berlingo van.
    Of them all taking into account (in no particular order) comfort, reliability, finish, excellence of detail, door sealing, performance, handling, quietness then I'd put the C5 up there as tops of my particular list but.... the one I'd like to 'go beyond' with was my first ID19. I would NOT entertain a Berlingo again.

    Consider:-
    1. None of the above cars except for the Berlingo was bought new so each came with its own set of issues.
    2. You can't compare 1960's technology and build quality with 2000 quality.

    The ID19 was the first car I ever owned which seemed to breathe. The subtlety of its interface with humans gave the impression that an animal presence was under the bonnet. This presence was there when road conditions suddenly demanded traction which defied analysis. It was there every time it curtseyed as you left or levitated on being awakened. It was there on one memorable trip when we averaged 104mph on a measured section of one trip to Adelaide (following wind). I swear this is true. I blew a hole in No. 3 piston shortly after, got a couple of second hand sleeves and pistons from an Adelaide dealer, rebuilt the engine still in the car (from the top) and although I didn't get it over the ton on the return trip it was definitely up there. It always felt like that car 'had the bit between its teeth'. That presence again. There are other 'campfire' stories about this car and time may make the memories a bit more rosy but it's interesting that none of the other Cits ever quite came up to that level. Faults it must have had but I'm at a loss to remember them, difficulty with replacing disc brake pads might have been an issue and maybe the overheated left foot was problematic.

    So it may not have been the best Citroen produced but 'they don't make them like that any more'.
    I miss that car. If anyone comes across KSW760... let me know. 'Sniff'.

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    I still have my previously one owner id19 63 confort. On purchase bare metal respray;new upholstery and all detailed. Many interstate trips low flying;then the rust worm got it in the chassis. It sits in the front yard,half covered by a fig tree,but the memories return every time I pass by. sigh,Andy.

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    I know the answer to this one.
    The best citroen is ??? ..........Someone else's' car.


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    All things considered .. the best Citroen is ??

    Someone elses?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kim Luck View Post
    All things considered .. the best Citroen is ??

    Someone elses?
    snap...

    or the one you used to own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gerrypro View Post
    Now for my ultimate Citroen wish------------------Drum ROLL Please.

    A 1938 Light 15 Roadster like the one in "Automobile Quarterly" ( second Quarter 1976 )
    Isn't it lovely... After driving the ID19 around without a roof for a few months ........... I've decided I hate cars that doesn't have roofs, if the sun is out .... you can't use them Unless of course you enjoy sun stroke!

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    '78 GS1220 pallas
    '92 Range Rover Classic ... 5spd manual.

    Yay ... No Slugomatics


    Modern Junk:
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    Quote Originally Posted by gerrypro View Post
    Now for my ultimate Citroen wish------------------Drum ROLL Please.

    A 1938 Light 15 Roadster like the one in "Automobile Quarterly" ( second Quarter 1976 )
    Don't want much, do you?
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    Nah Bill! I'm easily pleased!
    But you have to admit it is beautiful!
    Cheers Gerry

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    You know what I'm going to say - GS (but then I have recently bought another Xantia, so that answer doesn't make a lot of sense does it?) I like driving the Xantia, probably marginally more than the DS3, but it's the GS that always brings a smile to my face.
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