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    Icon11 1998 75th Anniversary Xantia Desperately Seeking Rubber Y Joiner

    Last week my Xantia sprung a leak in a perished Y joiner on the hydraulic return hose.
    The offending item is situated left rear. Above last muffler and on top of small chassis brace (so easy to get to! NOT).

    Has anyone had the same thing happen to them. All my efforts to try and procure this part have turned up with nothing.

    My usual repairers are currently trying to modify various standard components that they say 'may do the job' *shudder at the thoughts*.

    So I'm wondering if any other Aussie frogs have had some success??

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    I found this page in the forum that comes pretty close but wonder how things are going with the mods that these guys came up with??

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    Any help would be greatly appreciated!!

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    No LHM leaks for mine; have weeps from the tranny, regulator O-rings and rear main.

    You can still buy the Y-pieces described. Expect no more than $40 each.

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    You can make your own with rubber hose and joiners from the gardening area of Bunnings if you are keen, but the correct parts are available. Continental Cars (02 9759 1977) are about the only dealer likely to have them on hand. If the left one has perished, you will be well advised to change both left and right 3-way joiners on the beam as the unbroken one will likely fall apart when you disturb it or let go shortly after. One is orange and the other blue. You will probably need to drop the rear muffler box for access. A hoist is most desirable for this job.

    Being a 1998, it may not have the green 3-way joiner under the front passenger, but that is also a potential failure point. Later cars have a fitted hose and that can also let go with age. I believe both the green joiner and the fitted hose remain available, but some of these low pressure return hoses are becoming hard to obtain, so making up your own may be the only option in time. Be especially careful of the steering pinion and regulator return hoses if the pipes are hard with age. These carry a large volume of fluid, wheres the rear suspension return will not, especially on cars with the anti-sink system.

    The very late cars also changed the fitting on the regulator output from an old style pipe seal to a metal/rubber washer. The same seal is used on the C5, and will probably not be listed in the piping diagram. For the C5, is appears with the pipe brackets diagram and there are two sizes. Someone may find this handy one day when just the seal is required rather than a whole new pipe assembly.

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    Bunnings is the go in the irrigation section. I remember repairing someone else's XM in my garage one night with an irrigation T piece. It's still working some years later.
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    T pieces from the gardening section or anti pollution joiner rack in SuperCheap, connected using Viton tubing from your mower shop or hydraulic specialist.
    Do one side at a time so that the subframe pivots on the loosened bolts of the opposite side. Access is easier with the rear muffler removed. Access is most difficult on the driver's side as the fuel tank filler tube obstructs, but it can be done. Half the problem is getting light on the subject so you can see what you are doing. Helps if you have three hands & 20 very slim, strong fingers !
    Another fun Citroen experience to look forward to.
    The designers goofed on the series 1 with the one up front near the middle of the antiroll bar, as it is easily accessible. Probably one of the "improvements" made on the series 11 ?

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    DS Motors in Brisbane had some in stock last week…

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    I have had the same problem ... haven't bought them yet, but this firm has "T" joiners in 4, 5 and 6mm that look to be right.
    6mm T Piece Plastic Hose Pipe Tube Connector Joiner Air Water Fuel Car Home | eBay

    I plan to buy one ...

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    I bought a metal T piece from Auto shop. They look the same as the plastic piece in earlier photo. If I recall, I used cable ties to make extra sure the hoses would stay put on the T piece.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David S View Post
    You can make your own with rubber hose and joiners from the gardening area of Bunnings if you are keen, but the correct parts are available. Continental Cars (02 9759 1977) are about the only dealer likely to have them on hand. If the left one has perished, you will be well advised to change both left and right 3-way joiners on the beam as the unbroken one will likely fall apart when you disturb it or let go shortly after. One is orange and the other blue. You will probably need to drop the rear muffler box for access. A hoist is most desirable for this job.

    Being a 1998, it may not have the green 3-way joiner under the front passenger, but that is also a potential failure point. Later cars have a fitted hose and that can also let go with age. I believe both the green joiner and the fitted hose remain available, but some of these low pressure return hoses are becoming hard to obtain, so making up your own may be the only option in time. Be especially careful of the steering pinion and regulator return hoses if the pipes are hard with age. These carry a large volume of fluid, wheres the rear suspension return will not, especially on cars with the anti-sink system.

    The very late cars also changed the fitting on the regulator output from an old style pipe seal to a metal/rubber washer. The same seal is used on the C5, and will probably not be listed in the piping diagram. For the C5, is appears with the pipe brackets diagram and there are two sizes. Someone may find this handy one day when just the seal is required rather than a whole new pipe assembly.
    I'm with David. Phone Continentals. I've twice got these exact parts practically overnight from them. Our Perth dealer takes 20 minutes to tell me they aren't available. Continentals must have a different line to Citroen, that's all I can think of!! I've never used them mind you, as the originals are fine. But I lost the emergency spares and had to buy more for peace of mind. There are three of them, so buy all of them as the other two are presumably about to go soon too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnW View Post
    I'm with David. Phone Continentals. I've twice got these exact parts practically overnight from them. Our Perth dealer takes 20 minutes to tell me they aren't available. Continentals must have a different line to Citroen, that's all I can think of!! I've never used them mind you, as the originals are fine. But I lost the emergency spares and had to buy more for peace of mind. There are three of them, so buy all of them as the other two are presumably about to go soon too!

    Cheers
    CX rubber tee's from height correctors seem to fit fairly well. I replaced my Xantia y join which is under passenger side near steering rack. Xantia rubber falls to bits
    CX rubber lasts well which is a bonus.
    cheers,

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    I use brass T joiners etc from the spinner racks in your local auto shop. Blister packs all sizes. But if your original part is still available - use that
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    Our Xantia was done about a year ago. Parts from Continental Cars and one attempt to fit by me but eventually a point and pay situation. They are a bugger to fit. Brass fittings are not bad, the only issue I have with them is the weight putting strain on the rest of the hose. No issue if the can be strapped to the chassis though.
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    OK. I tried a somewhat dodgy "T" piece solution from an aquarium supply rack. I found that the two inlet tubes are the same size and the return pipe is slightly larger, and my attempt has still resulted in leakage. So I popped into Continental Cars and bought the actual joiner. The job itself is mighty fiddly. I will decide tomorrow if I "give it a go" or go to a professional ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by garyk View Post
    OK. I tried a somewhat dodgy "T" piece solution from an aquarium supply rack. I found that the two inlet tubes are the same size and the return pipe is slightly larger, and my attempt has still resulted in leakage. So I popped into Continental Cars and bought the actual joiner. The job itself is mighty fiddly. I will decide tomorrow if I "give it a go" or go to a professional ....
    I recall being told that in the end, the quickest way is to slightly loosen and drop the rear subframe to improve access. Continentals would tell you if you asked. I've honestly never looked there myself.
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    Yes, that is how I do it. Jason Hantos knows his way around by feel and can do it without lowering the subframe.

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    Indeed, thanks Jason

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    It isn't your car at Jolly's in Ringwood being scrapped is it? The same year and model as yours.
    I hope it didn't become too much and got sent off to the scrap yard.

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