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    Like most aging XU10 engines Zaphod's dipstick is not fitting into the tube very well.

    (Perkins, I don't mean that at all, stop sniggering and keep your mind above the waistlline or you'll be in detention!)

    Sorry about that. The top of the dipstick is cracking up a bit leading me to wonder if in fact it's still somewhere near accurate.

    Can anyone with an intact and original dipstick on a 2.0i XU10 Xantia engine (or similar I suppose) do a little measure for me please?

    Distance I'm after is from the top notch "full mark" to the step that sits on the top of the dipstick tube. Effectively the distance from the top face of the tube to the nominal oil level.

    I know I can buy a new one, but that goes a bit against the grain with this car!

    Thanks in advance.

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    I guess you could always drain the oil and change the filter. Then with the car on level ground refilling with the exact specified quantity of oil one could move the stop on the dipstick until the oil level coincided with the upper mark. A touch of cyanoacrylate (super glue) would set it permanently at the correct level!!!!!!!
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    After adding the extra amount of oil needed to refill the filter and waiting for it to fill, of course!
    Don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you've got 'til it's gone............

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    Yeah, I've just done the oil change thing and noticed the handle of the dipstick is cracking away.

    I can make a new handle, but need to know the exact length to make it to.

    Thing is, I'm just not sure whether the markings are right or not, or the level is showing incorrectly as the top reference point, or stop, is dodgy.

    On a related topic.

    I remember hearing a yarn, possibly apocryphal, about the early days of the Austin 1800 (or Maxi). They used the BMC B-series engine that was already in production for a number of cars, but adapted it to the east/west format with the gearbox underneath a la Mini.

    The servicing people began to get a lot of cars coming in for replacement of the engine seals under warranty.

    Given that the engine was a tried and true lump, they were a tad confused. Even more confusing was a profile of the owners of the failing cars showed their owners to be the ones who regularly checked their oil levels, even though the car was brand new.

    Confusion reigned until one day someone noticed that they'd used the same dipstick as in the in line models, but it didn't go down as far into the sump in the new configuration. The markings therefore showed the level to be low by about a pint or so.

    The conscientious owners would carefully top up to the full mark, thus unknowingly overfill the sump causing failure of the seals and massive oil leaks.

    Shows to go, even the best engineers can miss the simple things!

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    Old fashioned dipsticks were all metal......too easy.

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    Stick a bung in the dispstick hole and don't use it any longer. It's likely to break off in place (or at least the handle break off) leaving you stuck.

    David Cavanagh probably has dozens of them in stock

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    I replace my Xantia dipstick because the plastic shaft of the handle broke off (luckily with the dipstick out of the engine). I figured there were enough additives in the oil without adding some old plastic.

    John

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    John, if you've got a relatively new, intact one, then can you measure it for me please? (Yours is a 2.0i isn't it?)

    I'm trying to avoid losing bits down the tube by replacing the handle with something more durable rather than replacing the whole thing with another bit of friable plastic.

    I'm unsure whether the metal bit actually hits the bottom of the sump, in which case the reference marks are relative to the sump bottom, or it's suspended by the handle, in which case the reference marks are relative to the top of the tube.

    I know I can buy a new one, just don't want to!

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    The real question is, should you replace your clutch or scrap the car?

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    Quote Originally Posted by addo View Post
    The real question is, should you replace your clutch or scrap the car?
    That's easy, it's an auto!

    Seriously, Zaphod simply has to last me a while yet. A replacement may be somewhere in the future, but I find that rising to the challenges of this car is stimulating.

    And don't get me wrong, it's been a great set of wheels do far and I see no reason for that not to continue.

    Of course, if a white series 2 manual wagon looms on the horizon for an affordable price, I could be seduced away!

    Cheers, Pottsy
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    2006 C5 HDI Wagon Auto ("Mephistopheles")
    1982 2CV6 ("Gaston") On the road! (Woohoo!)
    1957 Slough 2CV ("Alphonse") Waiting in the wings
    1975 GS Pallas ("GiSelle") Also waiting in the wings
    And for Fun, 1968 Mini Deluxe ("The R & D'luxe" 1078cc, Grin Factor 100!)

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