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    Default Berlingo Gearbox whine

    For the last 1000k's I've had a gearbox whine. Tomorrow I'm booked in to have it checked out, along with fuel filler pipe (recall) & engine light again.

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    Gearbox noise sounds like the time I mated a pinion to a crown wheel from a different gearbox in my GS. Happens all gears, much worse on back off, near engine idle speed coming up to a stop.

    Appreciate thoughts in the meantime.

    I will let you know what happens.

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    worn bearing causing too much end float maybe ?
    in the noise there in neutral ?
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    Insufficient pre-load on the pinion unless of course that oily puddle on the driveway you've been ignoring turne out to be gear oil.


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    No noise in neutral, purely in motion only. If I put the clutch in while driving it goes away.

    No oil leaks. I haven't checked the oil level but it was supposedly checked less than 1500k's ago at it's service.

    I know what you are going to say....

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    Quote Originally Posted by gibgib
    No noise in neutral, purely in motion only. If I put the clutch in while driving it goes away.

    No oil leaks. I haven't checked the oil level but it was supposedly checked less than 1500k's ago at it's service.

    I know what you are going to say....
    All I'll say is "Take two!!

    Alan S

    "Insufficient pre-load on the pinion unless of course that oily puddle on the driveway you've been ignoring turne out to be gear oil.


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    Gearbox amateur here, but could it be the thrust bearing on the clutch?

    Or did you put in some pommy brand gearbox oil?
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    Thanks for the input UFO.

    No it's not the thrust bearing, as a problem with that would only occur when the clutch is engadged - from first touch to the pressure plate (unless it's riding, which it's not).

    The gear oil on my driveway is "life long oil" (according to Citroen). I'm sure it's life if it's really life long is more than 80,000k's.

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    The (one of the) bearings in the box are (is) stuffed.
    Not happy
    81,000k's is way too early for such a fault that is supposedly blamed on the weight I'm carrying in the back.
    The engine is hardly a power house worthy of being the cause for torque related stress?
    Not under warranty so it's costing $1030 & a day off the road.

    The service centre people where I took it were great however.

    The genuine oxygen sensor is $650 fitted. Must be a better price available on the part.

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    I'll send you a PM regards the O2 sensor.
    I think you'll find there are much better options.

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    Not nice news gibgib

    Quote Originally Posted by gibgib
    The genuine oxygen sensor is $650 fitted. Must be a better price available on the part.
    Why's the O2 sensor gone? Have you been running it on standard ULP? I know o2 sensors don't last forever on ULP. My cousin went through heaps of them on her 306... she hasn't had a prob since she switched to PULP.

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    Yes running on ULP.

    It stops & starts, coughs & farts on PULP. Takes 3 attempts to start in the morning.
    This is all way before (when I first purchased) the sensor going faulty.

    My mate with the other Berlingo in Sydney has the opposite. Running well on PULP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gibgib
    The (one of the) bearings in the box are (is) stuffed.
    Not happy
    81,000k's is way too early for such a fault that is supposedly blamed on the weight I'm carrying in the back.
    The engine is hardly a power house worthy of being the cause for torque related stress?
    Not under warranty so it's costing $1030 & a day off the road.

    The service centre people where I took it were great however.

    The genuine oxygen sensor is $650 fitted. Must be a better price available on the part.
    damn
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    You were spot on

    Are bearings still the same as the oldern days, ie a half shim looking thing?

    If they are I am not too worried about another week & a half of using my little gutless, whiney van.

    gibgib (with faith depletion)

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    Only 87,000km. Try making a big fuss, maybe they'll extend the warranty to cover it Most cars now have at least 100,000km/5year warrantys ...

    Overfilled/heavy loads ... It's about then I would have done my block. Why would anyone buy a Berlingo van unless they were MOVING STUFF AROUND I can hardly imagine that you have had it overweight if your shifting electronic equipment !!

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    I wouldnt be taking that one lying down either - make a fuss! It sucks, but the squeaky wheel gets the grease as it were. Dont get shitty with them personally, but certainly press for the work to done under a warrenty situation, or at least for a whole lot less than a grand (that seems a lot for a couple of bearings....) And ensure your aussiefrogs sticker is noticed

    Dont know how handy you are, and how much time you have, but I would be inclined to do that myself for those dollars, if the Citroen dealer wont come to the party. At least take out the trans and take it to a transmission specialist (not the citroen dealer. Trans specialists are lot less likely to get critical bearing preloads wrong - which I would bet is what Citroen got wrong at the factory for this to have occured at such low Ks)

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    Well after nearly 9 months of calls, letters & faxes to Citroen Australia & John Cant, now Brisbane Citroen, today I get the official news Citroen are not paying squat for the faulty workmanship on my gearbox.

    Nice one Citroen

    It's not over yet.

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    Well, this thread is certainly doing them damage if anyone else is thinking of buying a Berlingo for real work. I take it you may have subtly mentioned AF in your correspondence...?

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    No AF mentioned. Shouldn't have to
    Having access to these resources I could get quite nasty with very little effort though.

    Did I say "not happy Jan" yet?
    81,000k's, new bearings, bad workmanship, my expense

    I feel kind of cheated. I sort of represent their brand with aussiefrogs & can attribute to at least 3 sales to people (friends/ family) whom would have never owned or thought of owning a Citroen. If they run into what I have, it may turn them off forever.

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