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    what globes do people use in there DI's ?? standard brake light globes melt the lenses. I was just looking at LED, but realised they probably won't pull enough current for the old mechanical flasher switch.

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    Just a matter of replacing the can with a modern electronic unit which is not load sensitive. Easy Peasy !

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    Quote Originally Posted by citroenut View Post
    Just a matter of replacing the can with a modern electronic unit which is not load sensitive. Easy Peasy !
    Cars up to 1969 DON'T have a can.

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    Woops,

    I should have mentioned it's for a '63 ID19 that has the timer based switch/flasher unit. I really nifty little box of bits it is too

    Without the load of two incandescent bulbs on it I doubt the "make and break" circuit that makes the indictors flash would work at all.

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    I don't have any problem with the original set-up. The small 5 watt bulbs are for tail lights (inside bulb lights up the numberplate) and the slightly larger bulb being 15 watt is for the brake light.
    The meltdown occurs when a large 21 watt bulb is used for the brake light.
    Haven't looked to see what the indicator bulb is but it wouldn't surprise me if it is a 21 watt bulb

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    Quote Originally Posted by IDear View Post
    I don't have any problem with the original set-up. The small 5 watt bulbs are for tail lights (inside bulb lights up the numberplate) and the slightly larger bulb being 15 watt is for the brake light.
    The meltdown occurs when a large 21 watt bulb is used for the brake light.
    Haven't looked to see what the indicator bulb is but it wouldn't surprise me if it is a 21 watt bulb
    Yeah, the 15watt globe would be perfect ..... Dunno about you but I've never seen one (other than the ancient, likely blown globes that date back to the 60's still fitted to cars)... Did you manage to find 15watt globes for sale somewhere?? I can find them in 6volt and 24volt after lots of searching on ebay.

    I pretty sure you need BA15s (base 15mm ?? single filament)... I've never seen one for sale anywhere ever ...............

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    Actually after a lot of searching, these may well be the only ones in existance. Maybe try motorbike stores

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    The Hepburn car is set up correctly. Prior to being in Hepburn, it came from QLD and I have reciepts from DS Motors. They would have put the new globes in --- "I Guess".
    I'd say I've used 2nd Hand ones in the other cars. In my "goodies box" I see one 15 watt bulb marked JAPAN and a new looking 15CP NARVA bulb. I assume that CP is acquivalent to watts. BUT as they say ----- "NEVER ASSUME".
    I hadn't realized that these 15watt bulbs might be hard to get. Good you brought it up. When I'm in QLD next month, I'll get some from DS Motors, if they have them.
    The small 5 Watt bulbs are easier to get. I bought a couple of boxes of them from an old Hardware Store in Inglewood a couple of months ago.
    Imagine converting over to LED. You'd miss out on all this "intrigue" Michael

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    It would be an interesting exercise to check if the internals of the indicator switch allow for the timer section to be isolated from the flashing mechanism allowing a electronic can to be wired externally ?

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    Those bulbs are the go Shane.
    There's a seller in Germany who even has 10w orange jobs for the front blinkers.

    As for the dismantling of the switch, that's not for the faint of heart. Interesting exercise, only for someone else who hasn't tried it.

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    I'll be buggered, I rang the local auto-electricians.... He said he'd take a look and see if there's any there..... and said he had some in stock So I went up and looked and sure enough he pulls out a plastic container with 15watt globes in it (half of them were not labelled and I reckoned they were 21watt as the glass was larger). Given he wanted $2.00 a globe I purchased nearly all of them He'd probably had them on the shelf for years and never sold one before.

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    '92 Range Rover Classic ... 5spd manual.

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    I'm using LED side indicator bulbs on my Renault 4CV and reckon they are very good. The thing is, they come on and off really sharply, a square wave appearance rather than a slow warm-up - cool-down effect with normal incandescent bulbs, so the LED approach works better in warning the driver behind. People rear-ending us is the key issue here for my money. I have fitted a 6V electronic flasher unit too.
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    Orange bulbs sound like a good idea. I have a couple of spare front indicators ( for a DS 1974) where the plastic orange tint has faded way but otherwise they are in good nick. Maybe they can get a new lease of life with these globes. Do you know who is selling them please?

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