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    Does anyone know the truth about them. I've seen in a book photos from the Paris motor show during the 30's and the 22CV was there on display, (even cabriolet) so they did exsist. Is it true none survive, surely someone hid one in a barn somewhere (like the 2CV prototypes).
    I also heard the cars at the motor show were engine less (thats why the bonnets were left shut) and the prototypes were Ford powered in typical Citroen fashion that they can never get the engine ready on time.

    I read they were converted back to 11A but not enough V8 engines were found compared to cars built suggesting some wern't converted.

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    There is one on you tube but they admit to it being a replica.

    Does anyone know the truth? Has anyone got one stashed away? Aparently Australia being so far away from the war and so dry and vast was considered a good place to stash hidden secrets.
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    What? You think you've found one under a pile of garbage at the bottom of the yard?
    ... and you've waited 2 months and 6 days to report it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by David S View Post
    What? You think you've found one under a pile of garbage at the bottom of the yard?
    ... and you've waited 2 months and 6 days to report it!
    Damn nothing is a secret anymore. Found it down the back under a pile of rubbish next to a Bugatti Royale.
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    There's a bit about them in Presnell's book and it suggests one has been rumoured to be somewhere in the USA hidden from view, but the chance of any others still existing is remote.

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    According to Wikipedia 20 prototype were made 3.5 litre v8 thanks to Michelin they were cancelled in 1935.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David S View Post
    There's a bit about them in Presnell's book and it suggests one has been rumoured to be somewhere in the USA hidden from view, but the chance of any others still existing is remote.
    In the US eh. surely no one can hide a car like that away for this long.

    Has anyone heard the rumor that there is a Citroen half track thingo in the middle of Australia somewhere west of Alice Springs. Was stashed there before the war and was owned by an old Frenchman named Louis Renault. True, I first heard the rumor back in the 70's and every few years after that, tracks would be found in the desert sending Citroen people into a frenzy but nothing was ever found. Last I heard the rumor was during the 90's and old Louis was certainly old by then.
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    A little bit south of Melbourne "Antarctic", I am sure it was the first motorised vehicle on that slab of snow and ice to venture into that area, and I am certain it was left behind by a group of scientist and others, possibly because lack of space in the ship on its return journey io Ausi

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Cavanagh View Post
    In the US eh. surely no one can hide a car like that away for this long.
    Well, we still haven't uncovered everything at Area 52 yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hotrodelectric View Post
    Well, we still haven't uncovered everything at Area 52 yet.
    Must be the only model you haven't found there!

    Everything I've read suggests there aren't any survivors. How many were really built with engines might be a question too.

    Scott tried vehicles in Antarctica didn't he, before Citroen started making cars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnW View Post
    Must be the only model you haven't found there!

    Everything I've read suggests there aren't any survivors. How many were really built with engines might be a question too.

    Scott tried vehicles in Antarctica didn't he, before Citroen started making cars.
    I keep hoping for a GS, but that's looking less and less likely.

    Didn't Pierre Dumont say something about a 22 having been found in rural France several years ago? Also, about engines, from what little I know, weren't the 22 motors mocked up with or based on Ford flathead eights? That certainly would have saved boatloads of cash on development costs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Cavanagh View Post
    In the US eh. surely no one can hide a car like that away for this long.

    Has anyone heard the rumor that there is a Citroen half track thingo in the middle of Australia somewhere west of Alice Springs. Was stashed there before the war and was owned by an old Frenchman named Louis Renault. True, I first heard the rumor back in the 70's and every few years after that, tracks would be found in the desert sending Citroen people into a frenzy but nothing was ever found. Last I heard the rumor was during the 90's and old Louis was certainly old by then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pugrambo View Post
    don't tell me, the tracks were chevron markings
    You've seen them too have you?
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    The Citroen Kegresse did not appear on any photos that I have do not display Chevron either on the radiator or the Caterpillar drive system however did put the Caterpillar system on a T model Ford and Mr Citroen in his trip to the U S A in 1924 it appears that Mr Ford was not impressed. As for the Citroen Traction a two door Roadster with recessed head lights went on display at the 1934 Motor Show, me thinks that just maybe, HF copied the recessed headlight on some of its Fords, as for the Citroen Kegresse had a 10 hp engine, as for finding a Keg, you may find one or two, in the Sahara if you feel so inclined, and if you do find an example, do not damage it, so go rover get that bone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnW View Post
    Must be the only model you haven't found there!

    Everything I've read suggests there aren't any survivors. How many were really built with engines might be a question too.

    Scott tried vehicles in Antarctica didn't he, before Citroen started making cars.
    What you have read, and I what I hear on my phone are two different things.

    The crazy Egyptian guy tells me, and other sources somewhat confirm, that there may be two of these in southern California, squirreled away from the general public.

    Alas, there is not one at Area 52 but the Egyptian guy wants to come and look anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FIVEDOOR View Post
    There is one in the San Francisco area. They got it running. The throttle got stuck, and somebody had to pay for a new garage door.

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    Lol.. funny, when it happens to someone else

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    Getting off the 22CV topic, but here is one of the Citroen Kegresse at ICCCR 2012. Follow the link for some more pics


    ICCCR 2012 Day 0 by UFO1966, on Flickr

    I'm uploading a vid to YT of the other Kegresse there actually moving. Back later
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    And here it is

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    This is probably the best info about the 22CV legend that there is.

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