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    It seems that the 1974 World Cup Rally DS23 is doing well so far in the PEKING TO PARIS RALLY.
    It is a credit to Jim Reddiex that he, the boys at DS Motors and Alec Lowe of Chevron Motors have helped to get this car in as good a state or better than when Jim drove it - back then.
    I had the good fortune to drive this car to an all French day and admit to planting my foot now and then to experience a rally version of the DS. Down in Tasmania the car was stripped down and rebuilt with as much new gear as possible and now we see the results. We will find out how it continues.
    Below is written one of the observations - - John Paas.


    - - - "But the Citroen DS 23 from Australians Bob Sherrard and Peter Washington -Car 87 glided over the rough stuff, and just hoisted up its adjustable suspension to sail through the floodwater. The car that won the 1974 World Cup Rally across the Sahara in the hands of Jim Reddiex and Ken Tubman made light work of the day’s challenges. So too did previous Classic category winner Gerry Crown and Matt Bryson, also from Australia, in their 1973 V8 Leyland P76 -Car 90.

    Many of the pre-war Vintageants looked particularly impressive, the drive of Mani Dubbs and Robi Huber in a 1932 Rockne Six 750 -Car 23 looked effortless as its suspension took command through the torture of giant crater-like potholes. Roll on day two! "

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    A French friend of mine who lives in Vienna with his Australian partner saw the cars when he was in Mongolia sometime last week and sent me pictures. I envy his travels!

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    It's a pity that the third driver, Andre Welinski, did not get a mention in the press release.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UFO View Post
    It's a pity that the third driver, Andre Welinski, did not get a mention in the press release.
    So right! Good you remembered.
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    Oh, I am envious. Is this a BVH car, or a manual? Anyone knows what rally specific modifications have been made to the factory standard, apart from rear wings and tough tyres? I see the louvres on the roof and at the side of the front wings. Any reinforcements to the frame? Front undertray? Something to help keep it cool?
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    I know the answer to the first question - it's a five-speed manual.
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    If you want to know more about the rally and a bit more about the car and crew and their achievements, get a hold of Evan Green's book "A Boot full of right arms". It's the story about his team and their P76 entry in the rally and describes some of the others teams and their adventures. And the P76 finished too!

    Your local library may have it or try the usual online sources.
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    Rally Reports | The Peking to Paris Motor Challenge 2013

    It looks likes its all over, the mighty DS limped home with no rear suspension

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    Oh what a pity! It will be interesting to hear what the issue was though, a broken suspension rod would surely not stop them? Sounds like a rear arm might have given in. Well, these are the sort of reinforcements I was thinking about, along with the front frame where cracks may apperar around the fastenings for the front suspension/axle gear. When I drove my DS20 on the Budapest Bamako rally a few years ago an old hand DS rally mechanic in southern france helped out with some leaking pipes at the rear end (thanks Languedoc Hydraulique Service, LHS), he thought it perfectly sensible to rally about in a DS, but as he changed a boot on the rear suspension strut (while he was at it) and noted the strut needed be fastened with haywire for lack of a hole for the original clip, he admonished me with the words ".. and NO jumping!"
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    Is it true that the DS is back in the rally after some major hiccups ???

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    It sounds like they're having problems with the height correctors. First it was the tail dragging but the front was at normal height, now the front is up high and can't be adjusted down. I ain't no mechanic, but maybe pull the splash guards on the left side front and rear, and check the linkages. Check along that side of the frame inside the box section, pull the inspection plate and make sure something hasn't jammed or bent.
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    At least they are still struggling along!

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    anybody knows if they had upgraded the 5 speed manual gearbox with a Quaife ATB ( automatic torque biasing ) differential? It really makes the differ!

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    oHH~~ I love that semi Auto gear shift lever.

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    After taking a couple of minutes to read the latest report, the DS23 is in 3rd position with a VW Beetle very close behind in 4th.
    The P76 is still in the lead with its octogenarian pilot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by richo View Post
    After taking a couple of minutes to read the latest report, the DS23 is in 3rd position with a VW Beetle very close behind in 4th.
    The P76 is still in the lead with its octogenarian pilot.

    check out this video!!!

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    Leyland P-76 competitor Matt Bryson's blog contains a regular summary, with favourable mentions of their Citroen DS23 rival.

    Begins here > Peking To Paris P76: Day 4 - The Aussies are 1-2

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    I'll have to go see if I have anymore of these T-Shirt iron on transfers. The "What a gas" on the DS reminded me of them.

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    We've sent some parts to meet them in Kiev. Darrin would've gone to fit them, if getting a Visa was a quicker process, and could be done in person.
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    Onya Kris,
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