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    Does anyone know where a can get LHS spheres checked in melbourne area?

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    Just post them down to Richo. It'll be less effort in the long run:

    http://users.on.net/~jackafrica/recosphere.html

    Melbourne? There is people that can regas them, certainly they can't check the spheres by unscrewing them and checking for corrosion internally...

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    Expensive way to have the pressures checked though Shane, postage is not cheap.
    Disassembly and inspection is a different matter.

    Probably the easiest way to check them is for someone to re-gas them, if there is no-one with an LHS pressure checking rig in Melbourne.
    LHS spheres are tricky beasts by way of their usual internal condition being poor, usually from a lack of fluid changes and lack of use generally.

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    Hi Richo
    As I am an owner of a C5 what sort of preventative maintenance would you suggest ?
    From what I've read here they are meant to last 200K km then need replacing. There hasn't been much/any discussion about refurbishing LHS spheres as far as I know.
    For discussion, mine have done 125K km.

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    Quote Originally Posted by richo View Post
    Expensive way to have the pressures checked though Shane, postage is not cheap.
    Disassembly and inspection is a different matter.

    Probably the easiest way to check them is for someone to re-gas them, if there is no-one with an LHS pressure checking rig in Melbourne.
    LHS spheres are tricky beasts by way of their usual internal condition being poor, usually from a lack of fluid changes and lack of use generally.

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    I read that as he wanted them checked out .... If he wants a simple sphere regas, the Citroen Car Club of victoria would be the go. The contact in Peter Deker, his details should be in the club magazine (you will need to be a member to get them regassed).
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    David, LHS is the fluid used in DS cars in the early 1960s. Your C5 uses LDS, a different kettle of worms entirely.

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    Andy, if you fancy a drive to Warrnambool I can check them for you.

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    thanks Shane- can you please let me know who can regas LHS spheres....

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleChevron View Post
    Just post them down to Richo. It'll be less effort in the long run:

    http://users.on.net/~jackafrica/recosphere.html

    Melbourne? There is people that can regas them, certainly they can't check the spheres by unscrewing them and checking for corrosion internally...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Wilkinson View Post
    Andy, if you fancy a drive to Warrnambool I can check them for you.

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    That works out well... He can drive to warnanbool and get them checked ... and if there flat, stop by my place on the way back and I'll regas them in Ballarat (I don't have a brake fluid tester here ....
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    might take you up on that Roger.....let you know

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Wilkinson View Post
    Andy, if you fancy a drive to Warrnambool I can check them for you.

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    found someone close thru the club

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    Quote Originally Posted by andyk View Post
    Does anyone know where a can get LHS spheres checked in melbourne area?

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    Quote Originally Posted by David M View Post
    Hi Richo
    As I am an owner of a C5 what sort of preventative maintenance would you suggest ?
    From what I've read here they are meant to last 200K km then need replacing. There hasn't been much/any discussion about refurbishing LHS spheres as far as I know.
    For discussion, mine have done 125K km

    David
    Hi David,
    LDS is a different fluid as has been mentioned.
    However, the spheres on a C5 are wonderful. I've had two early cars, both rode really, really well, over 10 years old and no problem.
    Spheres are replaceable at a reasonable price from overseas suppliers.
    Hope this helps.

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    C5 and C6 spheres are throwaway items as they are riveted once filled with gas. However, Tecnosir offer a valve kit if you want to gas your own, but it requires drilling out the rivet. One can only assume they've decided there's enough meat in the casing to take the screw in plug safely. As with the green welded spheres, there'd be little point if they are already completely or near flat.

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    Thank you David

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    Remember everyone not used to mucking about under their Citroen, LDS, LHM and LHS are not compatible. However mixing any of them will test the compatibility of your wallet and the mechanic.

    From my experiences, as there is no fluid involved, LHS spheres can be regassed on a rig used for LHM. But to be sure the gassing head should be cleaned between types where it contacts the spheres. It's just that you should not TEST the spheres on rigs set up for a different fluid type.
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    Who bought Mel's LHS-friendly rig?
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    Quote Originally Posted by donat View Post
    Who bought Mel's LHS-friendly rig?
    Hi Donat,

    Mel told me (a couple of weeks ago) that he wouldn't sell it as it was getting old and dangerous. However he may have changed his mind.

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    There is no need to clean the filling head of the charger - the only thing that contacts the filling head is N2 gas. OTOH, depending on the design of the filling apparatus, the sphere may need to completely discharged prior to refilling. The only thing that will prevent a unit not working with the different sized spheres is its design. The ones I have made up for people (myself included) have interchangeable heads and will accommodate any two part, LHS/LHM, or welded LHM sphere. The later had at least 3 different sized sealing plugs and 4 different designs. Those are the ones I am aware of. If one has a tester, the general rule of thumb is that if the sphere is below 30-40% of its initial fill pressure it is not going to be a good candidate for recharging.

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