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    Thought I'd start a new thread for this as couldn't see anything on this particular subject anywhere:

    What should the main sticker be on the top of the LHM reservoir on a '74 DS? It seems like there are two types - a green one in french, 'NIVEAU: voir notice ~ LHM' and a yellow one, showing a container with simply 'LHM'. From what I can glean, on green painted reservoirs you got the green sticker on French domestic cars while all export models tended to get the yellow sticker. When the later non-painted reservoirs came out, you just got the green sticker regardless (presumably all part of a cost saving as the unpainted reservoir doesn't have any of the blurb printed on its side either). Does that sound right as I'm wondering what should go on mine, long since washed away...

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    While on stickers, I'm also curious about the late type injection air cleaner sticker. It looks like the same one as on the carby type filter. It mentions washing and dipping the element. What exactly was in there in the way of an element originally? Mesh/ foam? It was an old paper element I took out and a new paper one I put in (Honda CRV 2002 onwards very good fit ). Not going to be washing and oil soaking that! ~ All the parts drawings I've seen only show the earlier/ carb type air cleaner.

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    I've been meaning to ask these questions for ages but never got round to it, hope they're easy ones...

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    I dont think there is a clear right or wrong.
    eg:
    My June 74 DSpecial (2nd owner) has a green painted reservoir with the white writing and green niveau decal on top.
    My Dec 74 DS23 Safari (4th owner) has a non painted reservoir with remains of the yellow LHM can decal and the small Total sticker by the cap.
    A Dec 74 DSpecial I once owned (owner No.4) for a few year (that turned into a hippy car about 10 years ago) had an unpainted reservoir with a green sticker.
    All these cars are/were Australian specification delivery cars.

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    Thanks for the reply. Now I'm confused though! Your first & third examples seem to make good sense but number 2 has thrown a spanner in the works. It seems as though now they just had a bunch of both stickers and bunged on whatever they felt like. Surely not !!!

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    On the subject of engine bay stickers, is anyone doing reproduction stickers for CX?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DX5 View Post
    What should the main sticker be on the top of the LHM reservoir on a '74 DS?

    Cheers,

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    Richard,
    I know nothing I may have one of the green tank top stickers if you determine that these would be correct for your car - may take some finding I'll let you know either way.

    Quote Originally Posted by gerrypro View Post
    On the subject of engine bay stickers, is anyone doing reproduction stickers for CX?
    Gerry for you I'd be happy to build up a set, I'd need good reference images and exact sizes.

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    Hi Gerry,

    I'll check that CX2400 here that appears to be an early one like yours and see if it's stickers still exist and are good enough to use as templates.

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    Hi Chris,
    Thank you for that very kind offer, I'll leave it in your hands and if ever any of the green stickers surface I'd be delighted to affix one to my reservoir, it'd give me an incentive to clean the grimy thing to boot!

    Just as an edit, I thought I'd hit on the answer a while back. With my Hercule Poirot hat on I noticed the sticker silhouette on top of the reservoir had a corner missing where it meets the rim circumference. Ah ha, the offerings from Franzose clearly show the yellow sticker missing its corner, the green one not, so it must be the yellow one. But then I saw a green one in a picture and that had the corner missing too. The second image I originally posted appears to be that way as well.

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    On the basis anything appropriate is better than nowt and what was ever there is now lost in the sands of time, a green one can't be wrong.

    Thanks for the replies,
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    Quote Originally Posted by DX5 View Post
    Hi Chris,
    Thank you for that very kind offer, I'll leave it in your hands and if ever any of the green stickers surface I'd be delighted to affix one to my reservoir, it'd give me an incentive to clean the grimy thing to boot!
    Richard.
    Not that it really helps, but my car is a '74 D Special with a silver reservoir and had a very crumbled green sticker. One of the reasons I made reproductions. Why doesn't it help? My car had a complete engine gearbox transplant (23/ 5 speed/ crossflow radiator etc.) who now knows what it had originally? I think the correct fitment of either options should have the corner cut off, I didn't bother but it would be easy to do the snip

    I'm sure I have a few somewhere, I'll have a good look over the weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleChevron View Post
    Hi Gerry,

    I'll check that CX2400 here that appears to be an early one like yours and see if it's stickers still exist and are good enough to use as templates.

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    Thanks mate that would be terrific.
    There is a bloke in town that makes self adhesive signs maybe he is able to reproduce these stickers ??????
    Cheers Gerry

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    Quote Originally Posted by gerrypro View Post
    Thanks mate that would be terrific.
    There is a bloke in town that makes self adhesive signs maybe he is able to reproduce these stickers ??????
    Nothing left on the early cx2400. There should be a yellow sticker on the inlet trumpet next to the coolant reseviour. I'll find it somewhere (it's probably not changed over the life of the car). Is there any other stickers you can think of ? The green car buried in the back of the shed might have them.

    I reckon there is someone on Aussiefrogs that could help out with the stickers........ We'd need to find a good template to use though.

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    '63 ID19 http://www.aussiefrogs.com/forum/showthread.php?t=90325
    '72 DS21 ie 5spd pallas (last looked at ... about 15years ago)
    '78 GS1220 pallas
    '92 Range Rover Classic ... 5spd manual.

    Yay ... No Slugomatics


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    Quote Originally Posted by gerrypro View Post
    On the subject of engine bay stickers, is anyone doing reproduction stickers for CX?
    Quote Originally Posted by GreenBlood View Post
    Gerry for you I'd be happy to build up a set, I'd need good reference images and exact sizes.

    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by gerrypro View Post
    There is a bloke in town that makes self adhesive signs maybe he is able to reproduce these stickers ??????
    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleChevron View Post
    I reckon there is someone on Aussiefrogs that could help out with the stickers........ We'd need to find a good template to use though.

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    I must be on both your ignore lists

    Offer still stands, Gerry...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleChevron View Post
    Nothing left on the early cx2400. There should be a yellow sticker on the inlet trumpet next to the coolant reseviour. I'll find it somewhere (it's probably not changed over the life of the car). Is there any other stickers you can think of ? The green car buried in the back of the shed might have them.

    I reckon there is someone on Aussiefrogs that could help out with the stickers........ We'd need to find a good template to use though.

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    The stickers are as follows;-
    Air intake trumpet.
    LHM Reservoir.
    Radiator.
    Oil Filler cap.
    Service precaution sticker on front RH wheel arch.
    Air filter housing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenBlood View Post
    I must be on both your ignore lists

    Offer still stands, Gerry...

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    Sorry Chris ---I am not deliberately ignoring anyone---- your offer is fantastic!
    I spent the last few days smoothing out mud guards for my 11B Legere and have not looked at AF for a while.
    To follow up on your offer would mean finding a set of stickers that would be good enough to use to generate art work. Do you know anyone that could manage such a find? Certainly my stickers are long gone.
    I did once try to reproduce the stickers using 'MS Word' with only limited results. I printed them on paper and laminated them. Of course they did not last. Neither was the accuracy any good regarding colour, script style or spacing.
    I have inserted some that I had downloaded from various sources.
    The word document renditions are not totally accurate but may be good enough if no better source becomes available. The Word Doc is my own work. This is how I know to question the accuracy!!!!!!!!!!!
    Scaling to correct size will be an issue!
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    I'll check all the cars around here. I don't have high hopes.... What about the stickers inside the drivers door opening
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleChevron View Post
    I'll check all the cars around here. I don't have high hopes.... What about the stickers inside the drivers door opening
    I remember doing some work for Maxim Motors for a compliance sticker that sat on the support panel that ran across the front of the car, red on white? We also printed on the red warning light on the dash I think 'STOP' in white.

    I'm sure with the collective AF crew we should be able to get decent photos and sizes of the various stickers. Anyone with good pics taken as square on as possible can email to me greenblood(at)aussiefrogs(dot)com with accurate sizes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleChevron View Post
    I'll check all the cars around here. I don't have high hopes.... What about the stickers inside the drivers door opening
    It is the one that is fourth in the line from the left! However this may be the French edition as it is multi language and does not show tyre pressures. I Have/had the original ( I think it must be in a safe place ---- you know how it goes with safe places). I am sure that the tyre pressure were on it and it had a car icon as a graphic.
    I notice that on the one in my post that the line of English at the bottom of the sticker is not complete in its translation from the French.
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    Chris the Word document at least will print to the correct size for the stickers and whilst I say that it may not be 100% accurate, it is at least very very close.
    I have not got a correct size for the ''én case de surchauffe" sticker for the fresh air intake. Which is of course intended for the header tank and placed as close to it as possible.
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    We might be able to do this. on the weekend I'll try to clean the stickers and measure them (touching them may destroy them though). I might have the tyre pressure sticker on the green car, but I'd have to get it running to move it forward (or drag it forward with a 4wd) in order to open the drivers door. Given the various stickers and photoshop we might be able to "create" a good example of them.

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    '63 ID19 http://www.aussiefrogs.com/forum/showthread.php?t=90325
    '72 DS21 ie 5spd pallas (last looked at ... about 15years ago)
    '78 GS1220 pallas
    '92 Range Rover Classic ... 5spd manual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleChevron View Post
    We might be able to do this. on the weekend I'll try to clean the stickers and measure them (touching them may destroy them though). I might have the tyre pressure sticker on the green car, but I'd have to get it running to move it forward (or drag it forward with a 4wd) in order to open the drivers door. Given the various stickers and photoshop we might be able to "create" a good example of them.

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    Gee Shane, you did well to find all of those!
    Did you have a look at the ones I did in Word? they are not that far off the mark!
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    Here are some BX ones for future reference. The first two are just for the slam panel.
    The Large total one goes inside the rear glass.

    191 x 32 mm for the Total and projecteurs sticker
    187 x 43 mm for the Cooling Liquid yellow miltilingual sticker
    158 x 58 mm for the Citroën and Total rear window sticker
    Missing are the LHM, tyre inflation, and Engine specifics stickers.
    Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by gerrypro View Post
    Gee Shane, you did well to find all of those!
    Did you have a look at the ones I did in Word? they are not that far off the mark!
    Gerry,
    Between what you have in word and Shane's images we are getting close, I'd like to see cleaned up pics and some measurements of the stickers Shane has and I'll get started on some nice vector art.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenBlood View Post
    Gerry,
    Between what you have in word and Shane's images we are getting close, I'd like to see cleaned up pics and some measurements of the stickers Shane has and I'll get started on some nice vector art.

    Cheers
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    Chris this is really encouraging. It will add a nice dimension to peoples restorations. The sticker for the early reservoir has been changed and I think I have come closer to the original colours.

    I also have a spare ''Çitroen Prefere Total'' sticker if you are interested in reproducing these. Suitable for DS, GS and CX. I could send it to you if you PM me your address. These are reproductions from France.
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    Also if needed, I have a sticker not mentioned above from a quad-light 1976 GS that I test drove years ago, and I've also seen remnants on a poor CX 2400 at Pick-A-Part about 15 years ago. The location of the sticker was inside the boot lid on the RHS.

    Unwrinkled it would be circa 110mm x 75mm "For safety, For guarantee, Require genuine Citroen parts". The same thing is in French, Spanish, German and Italian on a paper label.

    It has spent the last 25 years in a book flat (just wrinkled from being on the car), if required I can post it up to Mr Greenblood for him to reproduce, as it should be a fairly simple task for someone who knows what they are doing. PM an address to send it to if wanted for reproduction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gerrypro View Post
    Chris this is really encouraging. It will add a nice dimension to peoples restorations. The sticker for the early reservoir has been changed and I think I have come closer to the original colours.

    I also have a spare ''Çitroen Prefere Total'' sticker if you are interested in reproducing these. Suitable for DS, GS and CX. I could send it to you if you PM me your address. These are reproductions from France.
    Quote Originally Posted by Simon View Post
    Also if needed, I have a sticker not mentioned above from a quad-light 1976 GS that I test drove years ago, and I've also seen remnants on a poor CX 2400 at Pick-A-Part about 15 years ago. The location of the sticker was inside the boot lid on the RHS.

    Unwrinkled it would be circa 110mm x 75mm "For safety, For guarantee, Require genuine Citroen parts". The same thing is in French, Spanish, German and Italian on a paper label.

    It has spent the last 25 years in a book flat (just wrinkled from being on the car), if required I can post it up to Mr Greenblood for him to reproduce, as it should be a fairly simple task for someone who knows what they are doing. PM an address to send it to if wanted for reproduction.
    Very generous offers, Simon that sounds like a rare treasure

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    Chris ----one sticker on its way marked "Attention Chris" I hope you can use it.
    Cheers Gerry

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