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    Hi all,

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    Does anyone have any of the tools referenced in the factory manuals for overhauling D series water pumps? Traction tools may also be the same, not sure. If so I would be interested in borrowing same (would pay for postage both ways).

    The special tools mentioned are Box Spanner 1646-T, Bush extractor 2291-T, dolly and mandrel MR3676-270, Stand MR3676-180.

    Of all these, the bush removal tool 2291-T is of the most interest as I expect that will be the one of most value. Can probably make do on the others, whether a recalcitrant bush can be extracted easily or not without damaging the pump body is the big question I see at present.

    Thanks, leconte

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    Hi Leconte,

    I'm sorry - I can't help with the special tools, but having rebuilt quite a few pumps in my time for the price of the good reproductions that are around today I would not bother anymore.

    There are often issues with the seal reseating properly which can be a pain... I pulled one out three times after it started leaking, and the fourth time I put a repro pump in - problem solved...

    All the best,

    Mark....

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    Are you are talking early D type pump? Its easier to buy now for later D pumps.
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    Hi DS & DS21BVH,

    I have an ID19 65/66 model. The water pump is DF231-04a I believe. Different to the very early ones and the later (post 65/6) ones.

    I hear what you are saying about rebuilds (Richo is advising similarly) but will probably attempt a rebuild, or at least a pull-down inspection. I think there is a kit available from the dutch site citrotech at a reasonable price of 34.5 euros plus postage:

    http://citrotech.nl/shop/shop/revisi...idds-oud-type/

    Franzose doesn't seem to have all the parts for an ID. I may need the final gasket that goes onto the motor mount, which is not the one in the kit above but is available from Franzose for 3 euros (plus twice as much or more for postage!).

    I can't see a full reproduction pump to exactly match what I have on either of these sites, Franzose offers a swap-over for a reconditioned one of my model.

    Any further thoughts gratefully received.

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    Your parts link is right. The problem I've noted with rebuilding an early pump is having a good basis to work with. The body are usually pitted, shafts can be crap where the seal sits and the impeller blades rotted.
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    My turn.
    Bravo DS. Couldn't have expressed it as concisely as you have, describes the usual conditions in a nutshell.

    Dismantling the pump is interesting, reassembly more precise.

    cheers,
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