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    2000 Peugeot 306 XT 2.0 - Sydney

    For Sale - Syd

    Peugeot 306 XT - $20,500
    59,500 kms
    2000 model (built in 99, this is the updated N5 shape)
    2.0 litre 16v motor
    5 Speed manual
    Provence Blue (Metallic)
    Velour interior
    Climate Control Aircon
    Power Steering
    Power Windows
    Rain Sensing Wipers
    Factory Alloys
    Remote Central Locking
    Immobilisor
    Dual Airbags
    Full Service History (Peugeot on Crown)
    Garaged under cover since new. Paint is immaculate.

    I have owned this car from new, it was bought in April 2000 from Chatswood Classic Cars. This car will be missed, as it suits me very well. Selling only due to being offered a better deal on a new car. It will most likely be traded on a 307 in the next month.

    $20,500 ono

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    Dont trade the car on a 307. You'll be sorry. The 306 is miles better.
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    I know, and I'm sorry already. It's hard to say goodbye to a car that is almost your best mate.

    The reason behind the upgrade is purely financial. I can buy a car with a fleet discount now, and salary package the car. This means that a brand new 307 will likely cost about a half of what I pay for the 306 currently. The finance package I received through Chatswood Classic Cars was truly terrible. They structured my lease to that I pay all the interest up front, meaning that my payout value on the 306 is considerably more than what I would get for it.

    This new finance package gives me the option of getting rid of the 307 quite early, when I am in a better situation to buy what I *want*, and not what I *need*.

    At first, I looked at the sub 20K category. You know, the Clio/C3/206/Mazda 3/Jazz/Barina sort of thing. But for just 6K more, the 307 offers so much more in terms of safety (big consideration), practicality, comfort, and general value for money.

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    2.0 or 1.6 307? Cmon, the 307 isn't that bad, at least the brakes work I guess earlier owners have done all the "guineapigging" for the car too.

    When I got the 307, I was looking at things like the 206 and Clio, but when you're only paying a few more grand for the 307, it was a bit of a no brainer.

    The 307 at least felt like it was worth 30, a 206 doesn't feel like it's worth 27 (we're talking about on road prices here).

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    Justin - spot on.

    No the 307 certainly is not bad. It was pleasantly suprising....but....when I got back in the 306 it felt like a Kart with twice the power.

    Seriously, on the test drive with myself, the dealer and my father in the car, I would come out of a roundabout in third, and was gobsmacked at how little torque there was. I know the engine was very new and it will likely loosen up but I am definately going to adopt a different driving style.

    The power deficit was so alarming, it made the 4K hike to the HDi worth considering.

    By the way Justin, I must say your web site is just fantastic in the way of useful information. I reckon my dad spent an hour reading and yelling useful tidbits las night across the dinner table.

    I still can't believe I am seeing my car in a For Sale ad.

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    The 307 can't be that bad wink . While I haven't really experienced everything Justin's will do, just watching the 307 police cars in The Transporter do oversteer slides while chasing after a hotted up 7 series seems to indicate they haven't lost everything a pug hatch should have .

    I see quite a lot of 307s around now - I think the appeal is the safety and a euro badge for the price (and size of car).
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    They really are astounding value for money, but definately appeal differently than the 306 did.

    <small>[ 18 May 2003, 06:10 PM: Message edited by: macquered ]</small>

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    Ahh, you're welcome on the website, good to see it's useful. To the best of my knowledge, it's the only place on the web that will tell you the speed of your wipers on II setting (56 wipes/sec) I hope the list of problems didn't scare your dad, the cars are better now.

    The 1.6 needs to really be wrung. It allegedly has 90% of torque from 2000 onwards, but a 307 isn't that small a car, so you need every little Nm you can get. Works well in the 206, which is much lighter.

    Try a 1.6 auto, then the manual - the manual won't feel so slow anymore Don't bother about the HDi, I think I did a cost benefit analysis on the mailing list, and there was so much cost, so little benefit.

    The HDi is slower in pretty much every measure against the 1.6, it's not worth it at all.

    To be fair though, compare apples with apples, and drive a 2.0 It's a pity there's almost a $6k gap. Although its a bit porkier, on factory figures, the 307 2.0 is supposed to be faster than the 306 2.0.

    I know the cart feeling when you're in the 306, you're so low to the ground compared to the 307. I know what I'm missing out on in the 306 and there are times I'd like one, but the rational side of my brain says "Hey, you learnt to drive in a Volvo, the 307's enough fun for you!"

    It's performed well enough on the cruises too and came so gracefully second to Derek's ex-306 in the traffic light grand prix

    Cheers,

    Justin

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    Justin I hope you didn't count the 56 wipes/minute :p

    Brenno I think once you get a 307 out on the road you'll be pleasantly surprised. I certainly was when driving Justin's. While I wasn't driving it like the 'bat out of hell himself' does, I was definately having fun. For such a tall car it is amazing stable, but you do definately have the 'sitting on the car' feel rather than the 'sitting in the car' feel of the 306.

    Hope it all works out smoothly with the sale anyway! I look forward to going for a spin in your new car

    Derek.

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    Don't worry, I didn't count (I think I better put a disclaimer on the website). Anyway, in slow mode, it's 39 wipes a minute.

    It's from the press pack that Peugeot sent me; they've got a good PR attitude, which is important for what is, in my opinion, a fairly enthusiast orientated marque (perhaps not so much so these days).

    Still, for what it's worth, I don't think any journos have ever mentioned the wiper speed. It's probably there for the "10 useless facts you never knew about the 307" section.

    BTW, if you're getting a 1.6, you should be able to knock off minimum $2k of a manual without trying very hard. If you're thinking of the HDi, remember it's the same price as a 206GTi.

    The steering feels weird when the car's new, but it does become better after a few months. I blame the electro power steering they use.

    Cheers,

    Justin

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    Don't rule out knocking the tyres into shape. I find the first few thousand k's on the 406 is required to return the sttering feel of the car.

    Last set went on just before a trip to Adelaide, nice and sweet by the time we got there (although the wheel was off centre after the alignment - amateurs)

    Keep on frogging...
    Andrew

    PS Good luck with the 307 and good for you in keeping the faith!

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    I was under the impression the Ford Focus was the next "driver's car" FWD hatchback after the 306.. question I haven't test-driven one, just from what I have heard..
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    It is.

    It's just a pity Ford puts some of the most useless engines in them.

    I don't know how in Europe they can overlook those engines. They truly are hopeless - the 1.8 Focus feels slower than the 1.6 307 manual - it isn't any faster.

    The 1.8 ruined what could be a great car. 85kW allegedly, but 10 are drunk, 5 are stoned, and about 20 must have fallen off the truck back in Europe!

    The silly thing is, a 307 is actually better value than a Focus!

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    The Focus might be a better drivers car, but the 307 offers so much more in terms of resale value, safety and general value for money.

    I might be getting old or something, I find myself looking at fuel consumption figures, NCAP ratings, retained value, intelligent finance rather than out and out driving ability.

    To be honest, it was a decision I made even before driving one.

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    OK so I am not having much luck with this sale.

    A few people here know and have driven this car, tell me in your honest opinion.....what's it worth?

    17, 18, 19????

    Last week I had the mindset that this car had to go in the next few weeks. This has been stretched to a few months now as it looks like we are trading another car in the fleet on a 307. Top idea, as it means I get to keep the beloved 306 for a bit longer, but also means that I get to sample the new-fandangledness of the 307.

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    Brenno,

    From the prices I was seeing when I was looking for my car, I'd say $20 000 is right on the mark for a private sale. It's a regularly serviced just over 2 year old car after all.

    Have you thought of listing it on eBay? $5 listing fee for cars, $10 fee if you want to set a reserve, and $40 final sale commission...

    Then you could start it at say $17 000, with a reserve of say $19000 and see how you go?

    Derek.

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    Ta Derek..

    It's currently listed on Carsales.com.au and Drive.com.au, even though Carsales seem to think that it is a 1.8litre.

    I should just put a 1.8 litre in it, because even the Peugeot dealers seems to think that this is what it has.

    Apparently my Ad has been viewed over 250 times. Maybe it's the colour??

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    Brenno, as I said at lunch today, I think 19K is quite reasonable for your car. But don't advertise in carsales or drive.com and not the SMH or Tradingpost. You're restricting your market so much by only advertising in those two places. Not THAT many people are on the internet, you know. The paper is still where the action is, and you'll automatically go into drive.com.au when you take out an SMH ad.

    Otherwise my only suggestion is be patient, the right buyer will come along. Just don't waste time with the internet thingy wink I know we're all net geeks, but 90% of the buying public isn't.
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    Yeah I know. It was meant to go in the SMH weekend thingie on the weekend but didn't get to do it due to unforeseen circumstances.

    Theres not a great amount of rush to sell it now so I might try again in 3 weeks or so.

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    Re-advertising again for $18500.

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    surely the next "drivers" car to be released by Pug' has to be the 206 (Gti 180), cmon! it's a Mini CooperS Works and Renault Clio sport beater.
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