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    Fellow Frogger! dave from bendigo's Avatar
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    cheap r19

    there is a r19 in tth melb trading post for $6100 which is very cheap considering it's a 95 model fully optioned with elec sunroof and the very rare leather trim. It also appeals to me because it is black. Auto 140,000klms full history.and excellent condition throughout

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    sounds like a beauty...

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    There's also a 95 V6 Laguna for $9,000.

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    What are the 19s like in terms of reliability?

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    Mahahahahaha
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    Haha, i take it your laughter expresses a somewhat negative opinion of the reliability of the 19s? I've heard the auto boxes in them are absolutely abysmal.

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    Actually my wife has one we bought in November last year. So far we have spent about $1500 on it - most of that electrical failures as a (direct?) result of an alternator failure within the first month of ownership some of which was covered under warranty.

    We took it to a specialist (Colliers Automotive in sydney) and since then it has run faultlessly and has probably added at least 10k+.

    Ours was a one lady owner and is auto but the auto appears to be in good nick.

    You do need to be prepared to pay a little extra in servicing and to find the right garage to do the work for you and hopefully you can be lucky - but I have heard of some dogs. The transmissions in particularly are suspect in the autos and $3k plus to fix.

    I would be wary of high mileage; many owner vehicles - but the same could be said for almost any vehicle.
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    My vehicle is an auto and I bought it with only 109000 klms on the clock, the auto was in excellent nick and I have had very minor problems after covering 22000 klms. Also the autos cost $5000 to replace but you can get a complete rebuild kit for around $700, which few people are aware of, apparently the auto has the same internals as that of the vw golf from that era and the kit for it is used in both vw and renault.
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    dave from bendigo:
    My vehicle is an auto and I bought it with only 109000 klms on the clock, the auto was in excellent nick and I have had very minor problems after covering 22000 klms. Also the autos cost $5000 to replace but you can get a complete rebuild kit for around $700, which few people are aware of, apparently the auto has the same internals as that of the vw golf from that era and the kit for it is used in both vw and renault.
    can you provide details on where one would get such a kit??!!! My R21 auto is on its way out (takes a second to engage drive first up when its cold). To save a couple of grand I'm willing to give it ashot myself!!
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    The funny thing is the R19 actually won a German reliability accolade from the ADAC (equivalent to our RACV, RACQ, NRMA, etc - an AA type association).

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    I will try to find out where you buy the kit tomorrow, a guy told me about it, and he is a reno + pug enthusiast from bendigo, so i'll do my best to track it down.
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    I certainly wouldn't say R19's are un-reliable. Sure we here of the few that have had intermitant problems. However any car can develop these. My sisters car has (and is sitting in my drive at home cos none of us has had time to look at it), and my cousins did the same thing, it was carted around several mechanics around town and no-one could fix it.

    With any car, 'intermitant' mean it needs to play up while you have testers/tools on hand to check various things. Nothings harder to fix than something that isn't broken when your looking at it

    A Renault 19 would be a great little car to drive, just don't drive a Citroen first and you'll get out of it very dissapointed

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    Just before you drop me in it Shane, I would just like to say that apart from the abysmal reverse cable incident we have had no problems with the 19 for the best part of 6 years. We are not unhappy with it.

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    Leigh,

    where have you been, I've been picking on the little 19 for weeks and you haven't told me to go stick my head in the sand even once yet mallet roll_lau roll_lau

    I expected you to reply long before this cheers!

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    Haakon:
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    can you provide details on where one would get such a kit??!!! My R21 auto is on its way out (takes a second to engage drive first up when its cold). To save a couple of grand I'm willing to give it ashot myself!![/QB][/QUOTE]

    Not trying to be stoopid or half smart, but when was the last time you changed your ATF & is the level up to scratch?
    Working for dealers as I have over the years, you wouldn't be the first to drop a car in to apprehensively get the transmission checked & expecting a bill for thousands only to be told it was a couple of bucks because it needed topping up or just new fluid. eek! mallet cry
    Some transmissions need to be put through all kinds of pagan rituals to correctly check the levels and a half a litre can make all the difference. 2_cents

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    The R21 trans actually developed the hesitation just after it was serviced (fluid and filter). The level appears fine (a bit hard to tell mind you as it is one of those daft ones with no dipstick. I just use the engine dipstick and apparently if the oil is up to the level of the sump gasket all is ok). I fed in 100 mls of extra fluid and all appears ok again - for the moment anyway.
    But it has nearly 200000 km on it, so it is on borrowed time anyway.
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